1 (edited by GaryD 08-18-2011 04:27:13)

Topic: A.R DRONE POOR BATTERY LIFE

Has anyone got an answer to the follow? (PLEASE)

I have a Drone that when you plug a new charged battery into it starts at 100% and as soon as you take off the battery level drops to around 48-50% straight away. From there I get around 7-9 mintues run time and then of course it then dies. Now this is with the settings all set to 'default'. As soon as you crank up any seetings this time is greatly reduced.
Now i have tried several different batteries with different chargers and they all do exactly the same thing. According to page 7 of the user guide for the Drone the batteries should take 90 minutes to charge. I have never had one take that time, they all take 2.5-3 hours to charge!
Now either i have a bunch of batteries that are faulty or a bunch of chargers that are faulty because it does not matter what i do i end up with the same result. It is not a faulty board in the Drone either as this has been replaced and yet again the same result happens.

So, I know other people are having issues. Parrot say the batteries should charge in 90 minutes and have a run time of around 12 minutes. Well I have two Drones that I have tested with several batteries and chargers and I am getting nowhere near these numbers that they claim.

Anyone have any answers???
(on another note I had a thought that maybe it was a software issue that was causing the poor battery life so I tested 1.6.6 and 1.7.4 and again had the same result)

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Hi Gary,

This is strange, the behaviour you have is not right. It would be unusual for you to have an issue with several batteries and chargers.
When you have tried the other chargers did you also try a different power plug? if not try another power plug.

Parrot Advisor UK 2.
technical.uk@parrot.com

08444 722360

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GaryD wrote:

According to page 7 of the user guide for the Drone the batteries should take 90 minutes to charge. I have never had one take that time, they all take 2.5-3 hours to charge!

It should really only take about 90 minutes. My guess is that your power adapter going to the charger is bad. The only other suggestion I would have is to use a computerized lipo charger that can display additional info while charging to verify the battery is being charged properly.

Personally, I use a Cellpro Multi4 with the GP/KO adapter for the drone battery. At a 1C charge rate (just a little faster than the stock charger) it takes about 75 minutes to fully charge the battery.

--Chris ^_^

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DarkStar and Parrot Advisor,

Thank you both for a quick response.
Yes the charging leads were changed as well as the balancer and batteries. Each time still the same result. I have been reading several different forums about this issue and there are people around the world having the same fault. Are they just living with it? Or have their issue been sorted out?
The problem is the Drone does not do what Parrot states it will do and these drones come with chargers so I dont see why after spending good money on buying the thing in the first place people should have to then pay more good money for a decent charger to charge the batteries properly?
I totally agree with you DarkStar however to have a few different charging leads, balancers and batteries all do the same thing? either we have been shafted with a bad batch or this product just wont do what it is supposed to do!

I will do some more testing today but there is only so many hours you can spend on this before you get fed up and unfortunately people are going to start wanting their money back! Under the Consumer Guarrantee's Act in this country if the product does not do what it is designed and states it can do the customer has the right to return for a full refund.

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GaryD wrote:

I totally agree with you DarkStar however to have a few different charging leads, balancers and batteries all do the same thing? either we have been shafted with a bad batch or this product just wont do what it is supposed to do!

Electronically, the power adapter that goes into the "charger" provides the voltage and amperage regulation necessary to charge the battery. The "charger" is really just a cell-balancer, draining excess voltage from the cells to keep them in balance. If it takes too long to get the green light, I would first suspect the power adapter.

The Cellpro Multi4 I use to charge the battery is a computerized charger that regulates both the voltage and amperage to charge and balance the cells, regardless of the source voltage/amperage. So while it "does" the same thing, it does it differently.

--Chris ^_^

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GaryD wrote:

Has anyone got an answer to the follow? (PLEASE)

I have a Drone that when you plug a new charged battery into it starts at 100% and as soon as you take off the battery level drops to around 48-50% straight away. From there I get around 7-9 mintues run time and then of course it then dies. Now this is with the settings all set to 'default'. As soon as you crank up any seetings this time is greatly reduced.
Now i have tried several different batteries with different chargers and they all do exactly the same thing. According to page 7 of the user guide for the Drone the batteries should take 90 minutes to charge. I have never had one take that time, they all take 2.5-3 hours to charge!
Now either i have a bunch of batteries that are faulty or a bunch of chargers that are faulty because it does not matter what i do i end up with the same result. It is not a faulty board in the Drone either as this has been replaced and yet again the same result happens.

So, I know other people are having issues. Parrot say the batteries should charge in 90 minutes and have a run time of around 12 minutes. Well I have two Drones that I have tested with several batteries and chargers and I am getting nowhere near these numbers that they claim.

Anyone have any answers???
(on another note I had a thought that maybe it was a software issue that was causing the poor battery life so I tested 1.6.6 and 1.7.4 and again had the same result)

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i have this with mine. i have now charged it with a lipo charger at 2amp and its quicker but i have a motor prob at the min now

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Since I am into RC airplanes and Helis, I have several Lipo chargers for these types of batteries. Although I have no issues with the stock charger and charge times, I do have issues with the run times. As the OP stated, as soon as the the drone takes off, the battery level drops to around 50%. I am also only getting 7-9 minutes of flight time. The batteries are at full charge (verified via Lipo Volt meters each cell approx. 4.2v). I am going to run a pack down tonight and see what the voltage is. I have a feeling the battery level indicator is not calibrated properly.

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I have done a test with mine.

1. I took a freshly charged battery (using a better quality lipo charger) that had a voltage of 4.19 for each cell.
2. I flew it around indoors until the battery level reached 1%.
3. I landed and checked the battery cell voltages. Each cell was at 3.3v. Flight time of 10 minutes.

Typically with these lipo's you can safely take them down to 3.0-3.1v (never go below 3.0v). With this data, there was probably another minute or so of flight time. The battery was a bit warm, so I don't know if I would want to push it much more as there does not appear to be proper airflow over the battery to keep it cool. No sense puffing a battery pack for an extra minute of flight time.

It appears that the voltage monitoring may not be calibrated or was designed to keep the batteries from being discharged to low.

Can Parrot tell us how the battery level is actually handled? this may shed some insight on the battery flight time issue many people talk about.

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Out of curiosity, have you tried doing a RESET on the Drone?

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KerryG wrote:

Out of curiosity, have you tried doing a RESET on the Drone?

Have reset 2 or three times now. I did notice that based on the battery level monitor, I got more flight time AFTER updating to the most recent firmware version. Before updating, I was only getting 6-7 minutes before the battery level reached 1%.

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Like other people in this thread, my flight times are significantly shorter (<9min hovering after take-off)
and charge times longer (>100 min) than those advertised by Parrot, and have been since I received this machine in 08/2011. It has had light usage due to the 11+ to 1 recharge to fly time. I have also seen many people in non-Parrot forums with similar complaints. As far as I know Parrot has made no meaningful response to this problem. Other users advise getting a higher quality battery and I may try that as a last resort, since Parrot seems unresponsive.

Could it possibly be a design problem that surfaces when using the US power system AC voltages?

sad  sad  sad  sad

13 (edited by ardrone.bastens.com 02-27-2012 15:05:57)

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Greetings all,

I have a solution that will solve your flight time wows. It turns out if you look for the right size of battery with the right capacity, weight, physical size, voltage, and mAh you can get 15-20 min flight times. Remember if the battery is too heavy the aircraft will not fly properly. I offer a battery that has AR.Drone connector already crimped and ready to go with virtually no weight gain. I do this with better quality batteries and lighter battery case. I am not claiming you cannot build one of these batteries for less money but if you are new to the Hobby and want an off the self solution than check out this battery offered on Amazon or directly from my website here (not this battery will charge using the original charger that comes with the AR.Drone):

http://www.bastens.com/ar-drone-1300mah … ttery.html

Now what about those charge times. The reason why it takes so long to charge the original battery is because it can only charge at a 1 C charge rate. This means at the most you can charge the original 1000mAh battery at 1 Amp. The problem is this means it will take even longer to 'balance' the battery during charging. Without going into too much detail the solution is in the battery AND charger.

Using the battery I linked above it can charge at a rate of 2 C, meaning since it is a 1300 mAh battery you can charge it at a 2.6 Amp rate. I offer the solution again on my website and Amazon which is a faster charger. Of course you cannot charge the original battery faster than 1 Amp otherwise you will harm the battery or yourself ... you can only charge my battery at the faster rate. In short you cannot improve the charge time of the original battery but you can get both a better battery and charger for longer flight times and short charge times.  Check out the charger here:

http://www.bastens.com/ar-drone-lipo-ba … e-kit.html

Again the charger kit is a special kit in that it has everything you need, kind of Ready-To-Run (RTR). In addition its a simple charger that kids can understand how to use. I am not claiming this is the cheapest solution rather its a custom solution that I put together that includes everything you need to charge my battery upgrade faster. If the battery doesn't need balancing it can charge in less than 50 min, meanwhile it may take up to 30 min longer if balancing is needed. This means you can charge a higher capacity battery in less time!

I hope this helps you all enjoy your AR.Drone as it should be. I know I enjoy mine much more with the upgraded battery.

Best Regards,
Bastens Customer Service
http://www.bastens.com

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This is crazy i also have the same problem it takes over 3 hours to charge and that's after they changed my battery twice and also gave me new power supple and charger . Its about time that parrot take care of this if there is a problem with the hardware i think its about time for a recall!  mad

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I have this exact same issue, drops from 100 straight down to 50% or so, then only 7-9minutes flight. From reading the replies it seems this may be an issue with the drone itself??

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Well it doesn't help that the included charger is very minimalistic and doesn't provide any real information on the charging condition. It could prematurely indicate a charged condition when, in fact, the battery isn't fully charged yet. Also, the AR.drone cannot detect the proper SOC (state of charge) of the battery until it is under power. It will read high until it is in the air.

You won't be disappointed by investing in a good computerized charger. They can usually detect if there are any issues when charging the batteries, charge them a lot faster, and are more accurate when charging to make sure they get to 100%.

Unfortunately, if you haven't been fully charging the batteries before using them, the batteries could be damaged beyond help and need to be replaced too.

Personally, I'm doing my

--Chris ^_^

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Please help all of a sudden all of my 6 batteries will only last about a minute from a full charge has anyone else got this problem cheers

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Same here. After updating to v1.10.10 the battery does not last more than a minute. Tried with 4 different batteries. I also have a lipo low voltage alarm, it's starting to buzzer short after taking off.
I guess this newfirmware is buggy and they also changed the ESC frequency and timing, that's why the battery life is so miserable.
I'm tired of Parrot junk

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Hi,

I'm having problems with my batteries too.

They only last 3 minutes. A few seconds after take-off the battery low warning appears.

After the drone lands in BATTERY LOW EMERGENCY mode I switch the battery off and back on again (to test it) and the battery shows again 45%. I can then fly for another minute. I've done this several times, which makes me think there is something wrong with the battery management system, hardware or software. It indicates lower battery levels than they really are.

My drone and batteries are less than a year old. I've always used the supplied charger. I'm using the latest software available for the iPad.

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Having exact same issue as ruirod. This did not occur when I first purchased drone, but does after updating to latest firmware.

Emails to parrot support have not been answered.

Anyone have a fix?

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I have exactly the same issue as Ruirod and brahmafear since upgrading firmware from V1.7.6 to V1.11.5.  Fully charged batteries last literally seconds before getting a low battery warning shortly after take-off! Also getting a "Control link not available" quite frequently, resulting in loss of control over the AR.drone! 

This happened to me twice today at a public event where I was trying to get aerial video of a concert - the first time, on take-off, the drone instantly took off to the right and crashed into some poor woman's legs 15 metres away. The second time, I got a "Control link not available" immediately after take-off and whilst it hovered, I had to reconnect to the drone wi-fi. When the wi-fi reconnected, the drone flew backwards about 20 metres and hit a parked car before landing on the road! Not a good look!

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Hello There!

Same problem! Got my Parrot yesterday, charged batteries and flew few times, and always got way less than 10 minutes!
Free Flight 2.1.12
here's what I last recorder (indoor flight):
PunBB bbcode test
You can clearly see that after just 1m30s the battery went to 50%!
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/fhoii
...and 1m20 after it was at 35%!!!
but this is the best: it took 2 more ninutes to go from 35% to 25% and then dropped to 15% in no time and the drone auto landed!
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/2c6vt

This is wired to say the least!

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Its a known bug since the last update, no need to get too distressed as i am sure many more updates are to come which will hopefully fix this problem of the drone miscalculation battery drain. Parrot are well aware of this from all the complaints on this forum and others.

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Well I called Parrot support a week ago and described the problem in detail and the support person told me it was completely unfamiliar with this type of problem. Since that time, I purchased a new drone (another new drone) I've tested with the new drone, 4 different batteries and two factory chargers. It's pretty frustrating. The product had been working perfectly before one of the updates. I noticed on a French forum that the problem has been out there for some time now. You would think that Parrot would being making it an absolute priority to fix this glitch. I don't at all get the feeling that they are. I'm feeling the need to really ratchet up my complaining